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New budget

April 15th, 2008 at 08:44 am

New babies means a new budget. Wife and I are working through it over next few weeks.

Because they are preemies, we have decided to avoid daycare for first 9 months. Our boys are at high risk of infection and sickness, so we need to protect them from diseases like RSV and other illnesses.

Issue 1- tax return is expected to be 4k (refund in 07 without kids was 3k+). The plan is to change wife's withholdings and bring home about $400 more per month.

Issue 2- wife's student loans were paid off with 2007 tax return. Monthly savings of $220.

$620/month should pay for diapers and formula.

That should allow the Roth's to stay in the budget at $875/month for 2008 and maybe 2009.

Issue 3- I am losing 10k cash income per year from soccer because my work schedule is moving from 8-5 to 2-10. The benefit to this is we will not need to pay for daycare.

Issue 4: My wife's car lease is up in Aug of 09. That is $350/month we need to keep in budget to get her another car. She puts around 50k miles on car every 3 years for work (travels quite a bit locally). More than likely another lease. We will owe close to 4k when we turn this lease in as well.

Issue 5: My truck payment of $700 will be done in Aug of 2010. This money comes into budget for something.

Suggestion 6: Take the $700 truck payment and apply it to 2nd mortgage (7.5% interest rate). 2nd mortgage is 55k or so right now. My math had the $700 paying this off in 5-7 years at around 2015.

Suggestion 7: take the $700 car payment and $400 mortgage payment and start a multiprong weath building strategy:
$300 for college fund twin A
$300 for college fund- twin B
$500 into new car fund for me
All $1100 is actually the same account because all needs are medium term. PRPFX is fund I use for this account (this is also the mortgage paydown account/ secondary emergency fund).

Overall plan up to this point is to retire at age 53 (kids will be 18 then). We have 160k already set aside, and set aside close to 17k per year for retirement.

Thoughts?

8 Responses to “New budget”

  1. Ami S Says:


    College fund is the LEAST important thing.

    You can always finance an education, you can never finance a retirement!

  2. jIM_Ohio Says:

    Just because something is not important does not mean to not plan for it or delay planning for it- I was against saving for college education the day before they were born. Then you hold them and it melts your heart... I will give my boys just about anything they want or need.

    The reason to use a taxable account for education is obvious. The money in this account could be used for house expenses, education expenses or retirement.

  3. Livingalmostlarge Says:

    I wouldn't sweat college. Pay off the mortgage when the kids graduate high school in 18 years and you can use the mortgage payment for college! Walla! Anyway though I am glad you wrote about preemies. I totally forgot about children needing special care.

    My sister's SIL was handicapped. Her MIL had worked because she liked it but after my BIL's sister was born she stopped. NOT something you can plan for.

  4. zetta Says:

    I applaud your decision to pay for at least part of your kids college education -- I can attest that it is a huge benefit not to start off your adult life with large amounts of student loan debt.

    I would suggest that you do look into the 529 plans for at least part of the money, though. It's beneficial for all the same reasons that a ROTH IRA is -- growing that money tax free can make a big difference. If your kids decide not to go to school, you can treat yourself to some classes when you retire!

  5. terri77 Says:

    How much can you contribute to your 529? Our state is $2400 anually for joint filers. I can do $1200 as a single person. $200 a month can add up quickly. I wouldn't contribute beyond the tax deferred savings yet.

  6. jIM_Ohio Says:

    Not sure on Ohio 529 rules. I see 2 issues

    1) in a 529 money must be used for education or we are penalized on withdraws. No guarantee my kids will want to go to college.

    2) the money in the 529 has same timeframe as other goals, it makes sense to me to keep all money in one place to gain economies of scale with investing (one $300 deposit is better than 3 $100 deposits from a tracking standpoint).

    PRPFX is the investment of choice for all of above, so it is highly tax efficient (gold and silver do not pay dividends).

  7. zetta Says:

    The money from a 529 plan can also be used for vocational school, so if your kids decide to become a plumber or electrician or hair dresser instead of going to college you can still use the money for that training.

    To gain economies of scale, you can start with one 529 plan, and wait until it is big enough to split before moving assets to the other. Or alternate months, sending $200 at a time, for instance.

  8. monkeymama Says:

    I am not one to sweat college either, but I do get that small amounts now add up BIG with time. Not sure why the comments since you are obviously doing fine with retirement. Why not save for college.

    Likewise, I am not keen on 529s, personally. So hey, you are not alone.

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